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Lukas Nel's avatar

The fundamental issue is that:

- To have space to think requires the system to have slack i.e. surplus

- A system having surplus is by definition, inefficient.

- We've built a lot of systems around systematically squeezing out inefficiencies.

Brent P. Newhall's avatar

Great post!

I wonder if another factor here is the rising personal cost of administrative work. In the past, the "great thinkers" had either servants or secretaries who took care of administrative work for them. Now that's all been pushed on the knowledge worker.

I suspect that every knowledge worker gets in at most 4 hours of knowledge work per day, and usually far less; the rest of their time is spent on email and Slack and meetings and creating slide decks for meetings. To be clear, some of that time is necessary as a function of arranging your thoughts to disseminate them to other people and to receive knowledge from others. Also, as you point out Rohit, great thinkers traditionally haven't done actual "big thinking" for more than a few hours per day. But processing 100 emails a day inevitably takes time away from deep thought.

Rohit Krishnan's avatar

Yes that's a contributing factor. I also feel that the very fact of a life with 100 emails a day puts us in an entirely different capabilities mindset vs a world where that's not the case.

yocoda's avatar

Great read!

There is a reason Ted Nelson isn't remembered by most in the the tech industry. If those Idealists [thinkers] actually implemented just 1 one of the projects they ideated, the world will be 10x better off. This is why.

Brown "Seneca-Soshin" Elk's avatar

Great piece Rohit.

On a related note of "labor hours" and pricing that transaction, I had these very unorthodox idea:

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/moinrahman_weekend-post-formula-for-the-tech-bro-activity-7291462278657290241-00RW?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android

Houshik Mani's avatar

There is one more thing to consider. The low-hanging fruits have been caught, and to do pioneering work in any field, you need a lot of resources and, at an individual level, access to labs, funds, etc, which can be accessed only via institutions. The filter to access creates credentialism, and now you are pressured to get "thumbs up" quickly and in any way possible. This has begotten a cycle and drives the institutionalism flywheel. How much leeway do you think independent thinkers have today to create fruitful work, even if we assume they have sufficient money? Thanks for the great post.

Venkatesh Rao's avatar

You might enjoy Thing Knowledge by Davis Baird, which I just fimished

Rohit Krishnan's avatar

Will check it out.

Lukas Nel's avatar

A lot of research labs somewhat work like that - Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory staff get a surprising amount of leeway.

Rohit Krishnan's avatar

I didn't know that

Andrew R. Noble's avatar

One of the luckiest clicks I've made in months. A really excellent piece. Thanks so much!

Rohit Krishnan's avatar

That's a good start but giving enough slack is hard

Ronan McGovern's avatar

Enjoyed this piece.

How would you fund such little thinkers (e.g. these 5 year appointments or otherwise)? Philanthropy , government and just being frugal are the main ways I see to date. Is the point more that philanthropists and gov should adopt a person/curiosity rather than idea/impact framework? And/or does more randomness need to be injected into grants/funding? And/or do we need more time-limited absolute authority for gov employees that give out grants?

Probably supporting small thinkers/tinkering requires some kind of fractal design - That is perhaps hard to design top down. Fair or unfair?

Rohit Krishnan's avatar

There are the beginnings of such fellowships, eg at the Arc institute, but they're few and far between. Bell Labs had the idea that you get the time and you're not even bothered for results until year 5 of 7 or whatever.

People need slack.

Lee Muller's avatar

Just wanted to share a related post of mine:

Good people divided and an explanation of why

Here is my effort to understand why people with good hearts have reacted quite differently

https://leemuller.substack.com/p/good-people-divided-and-an-explanation

Henry Oliver's avatar

Do you have a link for the productivity/hours graph? One area where I think it might fall down is for political campaigners or communicators. People like Malcolm X. Perhaps a lot of time in that work is similar to the machine operation? Fascinating that it holds true for science as well as writing, though.

Rohit Krishnan's avatar

Hmm have to look up. And yes, this is more particular to thinky roles where the output is dependent on inspiration.

Henry Oliver's avatar

I wonder how the equilibrium works. There are times when thinkers must be do-ers --- writing books, giving speeches, publishing papers etc. Darwin worked hard when he was drafting Origins the first time, for example, I believe. And thus vice-versa. To become Malcolm X the do-er he had to go though a big period of being a thinker. Across many lives, individuals move between thinker and do-er roles. Dickens was a prodigious worker as an editor/business man, for example.

Rohit Krishnan's avatar

Very good points there!

Jan Hendrik Kirchner's avatar

Fantastic post, thanks for writing!

> 90% of all scientists who have ever lived are alive today

I never thought about it like that, but sounds right. Perhaps we should be surprised if there were *no* growing pains.