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Wai Julia Cheung's avatar

lovely observations, thank you for sharing! i'm a hk native but have lived away for 9 years now and visit every year. resonate with a lot of your thoughts here.

i like to say hk is truly a "3d city", especially in the summers in central. we travel between buildings through bridges, cross tunnels that go through mountains, trams and buses are double decker, the hilliness, etc.

another thing i love about hk vs the cities i've lived in in the us is the number of "shared spaces" where people hang out -- not just nightlife where ppl spill onto streets, but also children playing volleyball in courtyards, badminton on the curb, etc.

Rohit Krishnan's avatar

Thank you! I absolutely love the 3D living part of HK. And the shared spaces aspect is very real, and yes quite limited in the US compared to most of Asia.

Tony Barrett's avatar

I love Hong Kong after living there before and after the handover. The first time I went back after a long break, I stayed just for a few days in Central and was sad to see the mainlandification of the place and the generic new malls. The second time, I stayed in Sheung Wan and the old Hong Kong of shops in crumbling buildings selling dried produce was, amazingly, still there. There was also, by chance, a photo festival with temporary "galleries" in random industrial buildings all over the city, which allowed me to see out of the way places I hadn't before. I don't know if I agree that Hong Kong got left behind. It was always a combination of flashy new and crumbling old. China proper just bulldozes people out of the way for its Stalin-o-capitalism schemes. No property rights for you, my friend. Infrastructure and property bubbles with negative investment returns aren't even good for the economy in the long run. Taiwan is a closer analogy to Hong Kong, with similar crumbling architecture and vibe (maybe also the smaller Chinese cities in Fujian). I think that might be more to do with actually existing property rights than anything.

Rohit Krishnan's avatar

It's fascinating. The same Uber driver told me how many of the crumbling buildings need ot be renovated but the govt couldn't find the owners. In Mainland when they couldn't they just demolished it regardless and rebuilt, to be figured out later when an owner showed up. Hong Kong couldn't and didn't.

Tony Barrett's avatar

I don’t know enough about Hong Kong property ownership. The land is all owned by the govt, as far as I understand, but with long leases. I rented a very large flat in an old walk up 4-5 storey building in midlevels from Swire Property. It was cheap for the enormous size (people used to walk in and say, wow this is a massive flat, and I’d say, oh no, this is the hallway) because they were very slowly buying out the individual owners and several were holdouts. So they rented out the places they’d already acquired cheaply. It probably took them over a decade but now there’s a 40 storey apartment on the plot. In China they’d send around thugs or police or literally knock the building down while you were at the shops or around your ears. No exaggerating.

Tony Barrett's avatar

I also worked in the China World Trade Center in Si Hui in Beijing when the area was relatively undeveloped. There was an old hutong behind the WTC that someone wanted to develop. Almost all of the residents had been ejected to places miles away but there were some holdouts including someone on the second floor of a building. The entire building had been demolished apart from this one flat precariously sitting on top of the stairwell leading up to it with retaining walls largely gone. The person couldn’t leave the building unattended or it would be gone when they got back.

Rohit Krishnan's avatar

Wow! Talk about hard mode for nimbys.

I did think maybe this was the right directional push that HK needed when I was there, but moderatin as in all things I suppose.

Max More's avatar

Interesting thoughts, thank you. I was there in 2011 for a transhumanist conference. I remember it having a bit of a Blade Runner feel, with two levels. The upper level was the hotels, the lower the "authentic" street scene. I didn't see much of the latter but the food I was told was real local stuff was inedible! (Also, the taxis were strictly limited to their particular area, reducing competition. It was odd and arbitrary.)

But! I have to object to your comment about "less market forced and more intrinsic." The market involves no force. It is the voluntary interaction of providers and consumers. I'm not clear what you mean by "intrinsic." Minor point but it bugged me.

Rohit Krishnan's avatar

Thanks!

I was lazy and used shorthand but just meant unlike cafes where coffee quality is a metric to be discerned often bars focus a lot more on ambience and decor etc as the market demands esp in lively areas, and the quality delta is intrinsic therefore to the provider's tastes as opposed to market demanded, if that makes sense.

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